Mr. U.N. Owen

Who is Mr. U N Owen?  Did the murderer's "confession" seem fitting and appropriate to you? Explain your reasoning with support from the novel.  PLEASE PROOF READ YOUR RESPONSES BEFORE POSTING, and remember to respond in complete and grammatically correct sentences.

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  1. Mr. U.N. Owen was the judge. The person judging them all. It was a well thought out plan because he definitely had to do his research to gather all of the information about some of their pasts and who he should as pretend contacts so it seemed like they were coming form people they knew. .
    The confession made sense to me. He'd always wanted to kill people and he came up with the plan to kill people who were murderers untouchable by law.
    He shouldn't have confessed through a message in a bottle though. It was kind of smart though just so he could keep the mystery alive. I just didn't like how he sent his confession out as a message in a bottle.

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    1. I thought he sent his confession in a bottle was kinda clever. He wanted the inspectors to make their own predictions about who killed everyone and I also think the judge wanted to keep the murder a mystery as long as he could but he wanted to get it off his chest. Therefore, a message in a bottle was pretty clever but that's my opinion.

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    2. Makayla, I agree with you about the message in a bottle. I thought it was clever, too. Mr. Wargrave liked reading adventure stories that included a message in a bottle when he was a kid. He decided to do that with his confession. In a way, I think the judge wanted someone to find it. He wanted there to be a chance that he could be remembered for coming up with this brilliant plan.
      The confession made sense to me, too, Emma. Mr. Wargrave had the desire to kill people. He had this desire when he was a little boy, too. I think the judge had to have been a very smart man to come up with a plan to kill murderers who were untouchable by the law.

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    3. I'm agreeing with both. I thought the message in a bottle was very clever but at the same time the bottle could break in a storm or whenever there is rough waters and it could smash into a rock and therefore the confession would be ruined. Either way I agree with you Lauren. The judge had to have been very smart to come up with that plan

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    4. I partly disagree with Aerianna on this one. The bottle was clever, i agree, but i disagree with the part about the bottle breaking. I'm sure, being as smart as he is, the judge thought of that. I think that he planned on putting it in the bottle because he enjoyed the feeling of there being a possibility that nobody would ever know he was the killer.

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    5. I think that him putting a confession in a bottle wasn't exactly clever. I mean, anyone could have done that part. No one could have thought up a plan as elaborate and precise as Mr. Wargrave, but anyone could put a confession in a bottle and throw it in the ocean. The idea that he wants to keep the mystery alive is very real, but I think he knows deep down inside that the chances are too slim. So what's the point in the bottle?

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    6. In my opinion, I thought it was also clever to put his confessions in a bottle and toss it out to sea, because it would keep the mystery unknown, but also maybe one day someone wold find the bottle floating out at sea, or maybe not. I thought it put a very unique twist to the ending.

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    7. He justice into his own hands there are some contaversy on his act but, I can't say that its terrible if someone takes a life they should ready to give theirs away.

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  2. Excellent response, but why didn't you like his confession being a message in a bottle?

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    1. The chances of someone finding the bottle would be very slim and if anyone did, the chances of the letter being legible would be small too. It would always be a mystery and no one would ever find out what truly happened at Indian Island. I realize it's to keep the mystery alive, but I just think that someone would need to know what truly happened at Indian Island aside from the Judge, who is dead.

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    2. I agree with you about putting the confession in a bottle. Bottles aren't really waterproof and can break. Then the confession would be soiled if it got wet. I think maybe a better place to put the confession would be somewhere hidden in the house, where someone is most likely to find it someday.

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    3. Both of your responses are great, but maybe the judge didn't care if anyone found out the "secret" behind the murders on the island. Maybe he didn't care if the confession was found. Maybe the judge just felt washed clean by putting his confession on paper. Any comments?

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    4. I think putting it in a bottle wasnt a great idea but i think he wanted someone to know he was the pne behind all of this.He didnt want to keep a secret and i really think he wanted someone to know that he was the murderer

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    5. I don't think that he felt washed clean by putting it down on paper because he liked killing people so I just think he wanted people to know, sort of like leaving a legacy for him self.

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    6. Interesting statement Alora. The judge will definitely be remembered for what he did.

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    7. I agree with Alora. I think he just wanted to leave a legacy for himself.

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    8. I agree, I also think it was a bad idea for him to put his confession in a bottle because there is a good chance no one will find it because the bottle will break or the paper will get wet and be ruined.


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    9. I think the judge just wanted it to remain a great mystery that puzzled everyone and thats why he put his confessions in a bottle.

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    10. @Alora, If this book was written recently, that comment would make me believe that there will be a sequel to this book.

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    11. I disagree with your statement Alora. I feel that the judge felt relieved after he wrote down his plot on a piece of paper. It is a fact that writing down secrets brings down stress. Maybe Wargrave wanted to die while at peace. Therefore committing suicide right after writing the letter. Or just to finish the poem, people have different opinions.

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  3. The judge turned out to be Mr. U.N. Owen. I think his plan was sick. His plan would take a while though, judge or not, getting all those people's history doesn't just take a couple minutes. His plan was well thought out though. Making everyone feel guilty right when they got to the house because they killed someone accident or not. He also followed a poem he remembered when he was younger which was pretty well thought out. I also think the judges confession made sense. He became a judge because he was fasinated with crimes and thought the people who commited them needed punished. After being a judge for so long and learning everything he could about murder, he decided he wanted to commit a murder. He wanted the murder to be very big and mysterious. He gained his victims by fidning people who commited a murder and got away with it and were untouchable by law. I did like the confession in the bottle though. He wanted the murder to stay a mystery but he needed to get it off his chest.

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    1. I love your response it's exactly what I thought to. His murder was well planned out. He was a genius. He wanted his murder to be theatrical and it really was. Great response!

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  4. Mr. U N Owen was Mr. Wargrave. His confession seemed fitting. It was lengthy and explained each murder and why he chose each person. The confession was also crazy which was fitting to his personality at the time of the murders. To add to the madness he put the confession in a bottle and threw it out to sea, leaving himself with a bit of mystery upon his death not knowing if the confession would ever be found.

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  5. Mr. U.N. Owen was Judge Lawrence Wargrave. I think his confession was fitting because he explained how and why he murdered the people he did. You can tell he had obviously thought out every murder and how he could get away with it. I also think because he was a judge it was easy for him to figure what tactics people used when they want to avoid getting caught for murder. It also said he believed everyone who commits a crime deserves punishment. Which in my opinion was also helped by being a judge. In his mind he was doing the right thing. He had a very genius plan and a genius way to keep the mystery going. I mean its not like the people who came to the island were going to investigate the water very much so his confession wouldn't be found, therefore keeping the mystery alive.

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    1. Great explanation! The only thing I would add is the thing about the "Ten Little Indians" poem. Even without that,it was a great explanation

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  6. Mr. U.N. Owen was Mr. Justice Wargrave. I think the judge's confession is fitting, considering he probably spent a lot of time planning the murders. It seems to me that it would be a lot of hard work gathering information about people's personal lives. It seems very time consuming. So, after all his hard work he wanted to make sure someone knew about his cleverness because he was proud of it. But I don't think putting the confession in a bottle to float out to sea was very appropriate. The odds of someone finding it are low. Plus, it could easily get lost or ruined. If the bottle broke, then the confession would be soiled. I think there's more appropriate ways of hiding a confession for someone to find in the future.

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  7. Mr. U.N. Owen was Mr. Justice Wargrave. I thought his confession was fitting, considering the hard work he put into organizing the crime. It seems to me that finding out people's personal information is time consuming. So, the judge wanted to make sure someone knew about his cleverness because he was proud of it. But I don't think putting the message in a bottle to float out to sea was very appropriate. The odds of someone finding it are low. There are many ways it could get lost or ruined. For example, if the bottle broke the confession would be soiled. I think there were more appropriate ways of hiding the confession.

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    1. I agree emily he couldve hide it a different way but he was very smart on how to commit the crimes the way he did

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    2. I also agree with both of you that he could of hide the confession in a better spot. I would want the confession to be buried on the island. So that the confession would be in a safer place exspecially if the confession was just to vent.

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  8. Mr. U.N. Owen ended up being the Judge, Mr. Justice Wargrave. His confession, in my opinion was fitting. It took a lot of time and effort to find out so much about the history and past events of the people on the island. He obviously thought out the murders well so he would not get caught. Since he was a judge it helped him to avoid getting caught because he's seen people do it before. He wanted people to get punished for doing horrible things, which this seemed like a good way of doing so to him. I think putting his confession in a bottle was not the best idea. As others have said it could have got ruined, and it is unlikely for anyone to find it. But at the same time, it is keeping the mystery alive because no one will probably find the bottle.

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    1. I agree that the message could have gotten ruined, but if he took the trouble to plan out everything that he did so well, he might want to make sure it's not easy to figure out. He might want to make it so that no one could know the truth without him giving them the information.

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    2. I also agree that it was not a good idea to put his confession in a bottle. I think that after all of his careful planning, he should have made sure that there was no chance that anyone knew what he did.

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    3. I'm not so sure I agree. Mr. Wargrave must've put a lot of thought into these murders. But it may not have taken much time to find out about their backgrounds. I mean think about, the judge already had access to everyone's court records because he was the judge.

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    4. I agree with you on why him being a judge hepled him do his scheme. Also colin I believe what you say is true becasue obviously if your taking all this time and effort to come up with this you wouldnt want it to get ruined by someone in the house figuring out that the killer is him. You must be nery careful and sneaky to do what Mr. Wargrave did!

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  9. Mr. U.N. Owen was Mr. Wargrave. I think his confession was fitting. It was a good explanation of how and why he choose every murder. I didn't like how he put the confession in the bottle because there is a very good chance that the paper could get wet and be ruined. I think he should of hidden it somewhere on the island and maybe one day somebody would find it.

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    1. The paper couldn't have gotten wet unless there was a crack in the bottle or if he forgot to put a cork on it. Also, if it got ruined, the judge would feel no guilt because he wouldn't know know any different.

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  10. Mr. U.N. Owen was Mr. Justice Wargrave. I thought his confession was very fitting you could say considering that he had to put Alot of work into planning the crime. To figure out everybody's personal information and Andy crimes they committed would take Alot of time.
    The confession did make sense to me. When thinking about it I realized that he has always want to kill people especially people who were murderers untouchable by law.
    I personally do not think he should have put his confession in a bottle. Bottle can float but only as long as they have air in them. They could also break and the message would become soiled and ruined. So I think he should have hidden it in plain sight. Like somewhere in the house.

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    1. I agree with you on how his confession was fitting. He did put a lot of work in planning the crime. But if he would've put it in plain sight in the house someone could have seen it and read it before they died. Especially since he wasn't the last to die. His whole plan could've been ruined if someone would have seen it and exposed the crime.

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  11. Mr. Owen, the man who sent out 10 letters concerning invitations to Soldier Island, is revealed as Mr. Isaac Morris by the Assistant Commissioner at Scotland Yard and Inspector Maine. Morris was the one who provisioned the island and made all the necessary arrangements. The murderer, Lawrence Wargrave, confessed his role by writing a note to Scotland Yard and placing it in a bottle. In my opinion, it was fitting and appropriate in this situation. It was already established that no one could get off the island, so the only elaborate way to deliver a message was through a note in a bottle. The reason why Wargrave wrote the letter was because he wanted to make the mystery unsolvable by murdering a few, then he committed suicide by setting up a contraption that would allow him to shoot himself without getting his fingerprints on the gun.

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  12. Mr.U.N.Owen was the judge,he had a very clever plan to kill the other guest.He even said that he had a sadistic delight in seeing or causing death.So he found all his victims and he kept in his mind the ten little indians poem,he knew that he was gonna kill them by what the poem said.Nobody knew who was gonna get killed but he did and he knew who was gonna die and how.He made a contraption thing that had the revolver connected to it, he covered his hand with a handkerchief so his hadn prints wouldnt be on it and he killed himself.He did say he wanted someone to know how clever he was and that the police may find it and be clever than what he thought.

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  13. Mr U.N. Owen is Justice Wargrave. Wargrave wrote his confession down on paper, not as much to make people aware that he committed the crimes, but to clear his own conscience before he killed himself. The confession and suicide fit his personality very well because he was a complicated and intelligent man who didn't really take a simple approach to anything that he did.

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    1. Your response about the judge not taking a simple approach to anything is very interesting.

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    2. This is a very interesting response. When you say he didn't take a simple approach to anything, it makes me think of how he did this crime. It was very theatrical and well planned. It would take a genius to come up with this mysterious murder.

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    3. I agree with how you said that Mr. Wargrave did everything in a complicated and intelligent approach. I think that yes, he didn't really write his confession so people would find out about what he did. He wanted to clear his mind and feel better.

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  14. Mr. U.N.Owen was Mr. Wargrave. His confession was fitting and appropriate to me. he told of how he wanted to kill and how cleverly he would have to do it. He told of the Rhyme he remembered as a kid. He Said how he had planed it all out that he would not get caught and how he fake his death and how he would pick the perfect time to kill each and every one of them one by one.

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  15. Mr. U.N Owen was the judge. I do think his confession was fitting. It was complicated as were the murders. He wanted to see the people unpunished by the law finally receive what they deserved. As it has already been pointed out that the bottle idea may not have been so thought out seeing as the bottle could have broken or have been lost forever. That being said it was also quite theatrical.

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    1. I Was thinking the exact same thing. What if the bottle would have broken and then no one would find it? There for him thinking of putting it in a bottle was a good yet bad idea for the simple fact that he couldn't have been 100% sure that the bottle would reach someone.

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  16. the man who was U.N. Owen was justice wargrave, the judge. it seemed appropriate to me because if he put it in a bottle, he may have felt like he got it off his chest, and doesn't feel guilty about it the murder. because he faked his death, I feel he's trying to be sneaky about it. otherwise, he could've came out as the killer in the first place and killed them all with no plan. or he may want someone to now about it and know what kind of evil criminal mastermind he is. Also he did lots of researching to write fake letter to the guests as they were from people they knew inviting them to Indian island.

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    1. Well if he came out as the killer i wouldnt think people would just stand by and let him keep killing them i think they wouldve tried to fight back and they would have gotten him before he tried to get them first and he didnt fake his death he actually killed himself so i disagree with some of your statement

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    2. I don't agree that he came out about the murders to not feel guilty, or to get it off of his chest because he didn't really tell anybody about it, and the chances of somebody finding that bottle weren't very high. I don't really think he felt guilty at all because he wanted to commit murder, and feel the pleasure of watching the victims die.

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  17. U.N. Owen was Judge Wargrave. His confession was appropriate in a few ways. First, he didn't leave out any details as to how he killed each person. He also told in good depth how he chose each victim to come to the island. Sending his confession in a bottle was clever, because he would have time to commit suicide before his confession would be found. It also gave the possibility that the confession could be lost, and nobody would ever know who the killer was.

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  18. Mr. U.N. Owen was Judge Wargrave. I think his confession was appropriate because he explained why he wanted to kill and why he did it in such an extraordinary way. He wrote the letter and sent it out to sea because he took pleasure in his work and wanted recognition. But the letter could have also been lost. He thought this provided a mysterious ending to his crime.

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  19. U.N. Owen turns out to be Mr. Justice Wargrave, the judge. I think the murderer's confession seemed fitting and appropriate to me because, he told how he killed each of his victims. He wanted to put on a theatrical impossible murder. He said that the innocent should not suffer, so he chose people that had committed crimes that were untouchable by the law which makes since when all of the "guests" were convicted of the crimes they did but had never gotten punished for them. He also explains the rhyme of the ten little solider boys which really fascinates me because they all died just like the people in the nursery rhyme. It was very theatrical just like he wanted it to be. He explained how he committed each of the murders. I thought it was neat and very smart that he put his confessions in a bottle and threw it out into sea. He wanted to invent a murder mystery that no one could solve, but perhaps someone one day would solve his clever mystery, or maybe not. He was a very clever man.

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  20. U.N. Owen was the judge, Mr. Justice Wargrave. I thought his confession was appealing, he explained perfectly how he came to know his victims, and how he killed each one, and his reasoning. But because he killed them because the law could not, I think that means he should also be a victim. Mostly because no one knows who killed them, so he's getting away with murder just like he and his victims. Also, putting the letter in the bottle was clever because no one may find that bottle, the chances are not very high, so then again he wouldn't be found out.

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  21. Mr. U.N. Owen turned out to be Mr. Wargrave. His confession was fitting because he explained why and how he murdered the people he did. He definetly thought out every muder and how he would get it away with it. He had a very smart plan and a great way to keep a mystery moving.

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  22. Mr. U. N. Owen was Mr. Justice Wargrave, the Judge. I felt that Mr. Wargrave's confession was fitting. Although I didn't expect it to be him, it all started to make sense after reading his manuscript. It made sense that he faked his death since a shot was never heard. Also Vera and Phillip asumed that Blore fell from the terrace when in reality he was pushed by Mr. Wargrave.

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  23. Mr. U.N Owen was the judge, Mr. Wargrave. I think his confession was appropriate. It made him feel better to admit to what he did. The bottle may have never been found. I think he wanted to be creative and clever, but he didn't want anyone to actually find the bottle.

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  24. U.N. Owen was the alias of Judge Wargrave. His confession was extremely detailed, as were the killings themselves. He murdered the "guests" with the "Ten Little Indians" poem in mind. Each killing was different and complex. The confession, if found, could not be traced back to the judge because he didn't sign it and at the time, people couldn't trace the fingerprints on the bottle that the confession was in.

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  25. U.K ended up being the Judge, Mr. Lawrence Wargrav. In my opinion his confession was quite fitting and appropiate. He have the reasons as to why he choose, who he choose,to invite to the island. Also, in the letter he wrote and put in a the bottle he describe in full description why and how he killed all his victims. What I'm not to sure about is if he actually wanted to people to find his confession or not, because putting it in a bottle is a smart idea becasue it would take some time for someone to find it, but what if the bottle would have broken or gotten lost? Mr. Wargave put alot of time to set up this scheme.

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  26. Mr. U N Owen turned out to be Mr. Justice Wargrave. His confession seemed appropriate because he gave all the reasoning behind why he did this. He had obviously thought out all of the murders and how he was able to get away with it. I agree with Colin that he did this to clear his head before he committed suicide and that he was a complicated man who never took a simple approach to anything. I don’t think that putting the confession in a bottle was very necessary since he was already dead. Although I guess it seems logical that if you wanted the chance of someone finding it slim, it makes sense to throw it in the ocean.

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