Mr. U.N. Owen

Who is Mr. U N Owen?  Did the murderer's "confession" seem fitting and appropriate to you?In your opinion, why did Mr. U.N. Owen create this plot? Explain your reasoning with support from the novel.  PLEASE PROOF READ YOUR RESPONSES BEFORE POSTING, and remember to respond in complete and grammatically correct sentences.

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  1. U.N Owen is Lawrence Wargrave. I think that his confession seems fitting to the story because he says he had the urge to kill but not innocent people. So he found people who committed crimes that couldn't be touched by law. U.N Owen or Lawrence Wargrave created this plot because he always wants justice for every crime committed. This is supported because in the story it says " from an early age I knew very strongly the lust to kill , but side by side with this went a contradictory trait- a strong sense of justice " . this goes along with the plot because all of the people who were guests on the island committed a crime that could not be touched by the law.

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    1. I agree about Mr. Wargrave's lust to kill but, I think he was still wrong to kill those people since most of their crimes were accidental. Some of the guest didn't even physically murder anyone.

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    2. You have made an good point Tyler. Could it be that Judge Wargrave just had a lust to kill and found his desire fulfilled by "punishing the guests" for their crimes even though they may not have physically murdered anyone?

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    3. I don't think it was wrong for him to murder his guests, yes most of their crimes were "accidental" but he had mentioned that he specifically picked his guests according to the fact that all their crimes were untouchable by law because their crimes seemed so innocent.

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    4. I agree with Tyler's comment because it is true that most of the crimes were accidental, so technically someone of the people that were murdered were innocent.

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    5. I agree that Mr. Wargrave wanted justice for the crimes that couldn't be touched by the law. I think that it was wrong to murder the guests because they didn't really murder anyone, most of what they were accused of was an accident.

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    6. I agree with Tyler because most of the crimes were accidental and they didn't physically murder anyone but Mr. Wargrave's urge to kill wasn't innocent people and I feel like some of the characters were innocent.

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    7. I agree with Tyler because most of the crimes that the guests were accused of at dinner were accidental. Although some of the guest's crimes deserved punishment an example would be Anthony Marston. He killed two young kids while driving recklessly, and he felt no regret. These crimes could not be reached by the law. Some of the guests could have been innocent, others were guilty they just weren't punished.

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    8. I also agree with Tyler, because Mr. Wargrave did have an urge to kill. Mr. Wargrave chose the individuals that have had accidential murders, and could not get touched by law. Yes, some were the characters fault , but there could have been some that were not.

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    9. I also agree with Tyler because even though Mr. Wargrave had the urge to kill those who murdered that we're not punished by the law (accidental or not), he still had no right to kill them because like Tyler said, some of the guests didn't physically murder anyone.

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    10. I also agree with Tyler because most of the people didn't mean to kill anyone. Wargrave is punishing them permanently for something that wasn't even meant to happen. Some did deserve to be punished but not by death. I understand that he want justice for crime but death was not the answer.

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    11. I agree with Katelynn on how Wargrave had a lust to kill, but just not innocent people. I don't think that the guests were completely guilty either, though. They had crimes that couldn't be touched by law, so obviously they weren't totally guilty for the crimes. Some of the guests were part of the cause for the people's deaths, but they weren't the whole main reason. I still don't think it was wrong how he murdered his guests, because even though they might not of committed the crime, they had a part in it.

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    12. I agree that it was wrong of Wargrave to murder them. Yeah, they did have those murders pinned to them but many of them were accidents. Some of them could have been prevented, yes. But nobody gave him the power to take it upon himself to punish and murder them in return. He could have easily found/ brought his evidence to the courts and had them tried. He should have found a way to restrain his urge to kill.

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    13. I agree with Tyler. but I also agree why wargrave felt like he needed to find justice for the people that died

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  2. Mr. U.N. Owen is an unknown person who in beginning of the novel sends invitations to ten strangers inviting them to Soldier Island. The reader ultimately finds out Mr. U. N. Owen is Mr. Lawrence Wargrave. Mr. Wargrave is a retired judge who seems to be a leader of sorts throughout the novel until he is "killed" but later confesses to be the murderer in a letter. The murderer's "confession" seemed fitting because the other house guests suspected him of the murders until he was "killed" so they did not suspect him anymore giving him the motive and chance to kill undetected. He did not want to get caught so he left the letter to be discovered at a later time by an unknown person. In my opinion, Mr. U.N Owen created this plot because he was sadistic, murder oriented, and felt justified in executing punishments for non-convicted crimes. In this novel, it stated "from an early age I knew very strongly the lust to kill" and that he then fantasied about murdering without detection. I never saw this plot twist coming.

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    1. Excellent response Taylor. You have done a great job with your insight of the judge.

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    2. I agree with Taylor 100%. I didn't suspect this big of a plot twist at the end either. She has very good detail in her response and it's understandable.

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    3. I agree with you when you talked about how Wargrave felt the need to bring justice to those people that are out of the reach of the law and should be punished for their crimes. What I don’t agree with is why he wrote the letter. I think he wrote the letter because he wanted to explain the murder that has happened on Soldier Island and he was also guilty of killing someone so he committed suicide by shooting himself in the forehead. I agree with everything else Taylor has said in her response.

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    4. I agree on this. I pesonally didn't think it would be him. I have seen a lot of movies with twist endings and this book definetly gave me a twist ending that really suprised me.

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    5. I agree with Taylor. I thought it was him towards the middle of the book because he's the only person with the background to get the information on the people.

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    6. I agree with Taylor. Lawrence Wargrave was certainly sadistic about killing the other guests. I think he thought anyone who committed a crime and got a way with it needed to pay for what they did. So Mr. Wargrace thought he was serving justice.

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    7. I agree with Taylor. I didn't suspect that it was Lawrence Wargrave at all, and the twist was very surprising.

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    8. I agree with Taylor, her inside is very complete. With the death of Mr . Wargrave everyone stopped thinking it was him murdering the guest. When in reality he had the whole plot plan accordingly.

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  3. Taylor has a well written response. I do agree with the unexpected plot twist. The whole entire time I thought it was someone else, someone that wasn't one of the ten.

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  4. Taylor has a well written response. I do agree with the unexpected plot twist at the end. Her response was understandable and she used bigger and harder words which was very lovely.

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  5. Mr. U.N. Owen was Lawrence Wargrave. His confection to the murder did seem fitting and appropriate in my opinion. Mr. U.N. Owen created this plot because of all of the victims murdered someone. They did not get caught due to the fact that they were "accidental" murders, therefore the law could not touch them. He felt that they needed to be punished for their crimes.

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    1. I disagree with Justin because I don’t believe U.N. Owen was only punishing them for their crimes. I feel he was obsessed with murder from a young age and this is why he created this insane plot. He said in the book, “I wanted something theatrical, impossible! I wanted to kill…Yes, I wanted to kill…” The judge part of him probably wanted to make these people pay for their sins and the other side of him loved to kill.

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  6. Mr. U.N. Owen was Lawrence Wargrave. His confession to the murder did seem fitting and appropriate, in my opinion. Mr. U.N. Owen created this plot because all of the victims murdered someone. They did not get caught due to the fact the they were "accidental" murders. Therefore the law could not touch them. Mr. U.N. Owen felt the he needed to bring them to justice because he was a judge.

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    1. I agree with Justin because all the guests of the island had committed, or been associated with a murder. However some were controversial as to whether a certain guest actually murdered his or her victim. As an example, the Rogers couple had been care takers of Jennifer Brady. Brady died but no evidence was found against the Rogers. Some thought they just let her die so they could benefit. Unless we knew the full story behind each of the guests murders we can't say whether they are actually guilty or not.

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    2. I do not believe that Mr. U.N. Owen's motive for the murders was truly for justice. Justice Wargrave murdered because it had been a life long fantasy to commit numerous murders and get away with it.

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    3. I believe that his reason for murder was that he could not give them justice in court. So he would show justice to them another way by killing them were no one would find out.

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  7. Mr U.N. Owen's true identity is none other than Lawrence Wargrave. The old judge's confession did seem rather fitting to me. I say that because he openly admitted to having the desire to murder for a prolonged period of time in his letter. His confession was also fitting, and quite expository, because he explained in detail how he murdered most of the guests, but was then found lifeless in his room by investigators. Additionally, he clarified how he found his fellow guests, or victims, and how he later fooled most into thinking he was shot and killed. The details in his letter made everything that occurred make perfect sence, and was, in fact, very appropriate to the story in my opinion. Wargrave created this plot to fulfill his desire to kill those who were practically responsible for the death of another, but unassailable by the law. Although, I like to think he was just an old mad man who wanted to have some excitement in his last few days of life.

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    1. Taylor, I defiantly agree with you. Mr.Wargrave’s thirst for death and his strong since of justice would make it very hard to resist playing executioner, even if it cost him his own life. His plot made perfect since as to killing the one with the most on their guilt last making them suffer. His background as a judge made him cunning and witty giving him the skills to be able to lure his victims into his death trap. I would say that his little killing spree would defiantly be enough excitement for at least a few days and even more a lifetime.

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  8. Mr. U.N. Owen was an unidentified person who was the one presumed to have invited guests by letter to come to a mysterious island off the coast of Devon. At first he was not suspected to be any one of them on the island, but eventually they realized it must be a guest after a complete search of the island. The way he carried out his plan was unsuspecting and made everyone wonder until their deaths. The way he presented himself was mysterious as he carefully “calculated” every detail of every death. The way he chose to make himself known was original but risky. Risky because Justice Wargrave may have never gotten credit if the bottle was not found with his confession in it. It was fitting to confess because he wanted to go down in history like one of the other great murder mysteries he had listened to in court and always “fantasized” about. Mr. U.N. Owen created the plot because it was his “desire to act instead of to judge.” He could gain his true recognition as a brilliant murderer linked with his entire “art collection of victims.” He created a plot that used the knowledge of a judge and the sick desires of his imagination.

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    1. Excellent response Keagan. You have strong support that is well written.

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    2. I agree with Keagan on how he said that U.N. Owen is an unidentified person. I also agree with the fact that he has a sick imagination.

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  9. Emily Brent reacts very calmly to Anthony's death. After his death she said they should all go to bed because it's getting late. Emily copes with the deaths by being in denial of her own. The morning that everyone finds out about Mrs. Rodgers death, Emily shows no grief by immediately accusing Mrs. Rodgers of literally dying of fear from the voice on the record stating that Mr. & Mrs. Rodgers killed their old employee. Also Emily expresses her fear in a different way by asking when the boat is coming, unlike Vera Claythorne who doesn't try to hide her fear at all and has something like a panic attack after the first death.

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  10. Mr. U.N Owen is an unknown person who wrote letters to ten non expecting people. We find out later in the story that Mr. U.N Owen is Lawrence Wargrave. In my opinion, the confession seemed fitting and appropriate. Of course I don't agree with him murdering people, but at the same time I understand where he is coming from not wanting to murder innocent people, but still wanting to feel what murder is like, so I believe that is why he created the plot for the murder.

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  11. Mr. U.N. Owen is Lawrence Wargrave. I think that his confession seemed fitting to the story because he had the lust to kill. Mr. Wargrave just didn't want to kill innnocent people. The other nine people were all innocent in the laws' eyes but they weren't to Mr. Wargrave. I think that he created this plot because it would be easier to successfully kill the others without being caught by them. He said "I have a definite delight in seeing or causing death." He also said "from an early age I knew very strongly the lust to kill."

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  12. Mr. U.N.Owen is Judge Wargdave. This is not known until the very end of the book. I think his murfer confession was fitting. Everyone on the island had all gotten away with murder before coming to the island. Because the Judge had live his life being a judge, he was a judge on the island to every person there. The Judge created this plot to create a murder mystery no one could solve. In the written confession on oage 273 it states "it was my ambition to create a murder mystery that no one could solve."

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  13. I think that Mr. U.N Owen is Lawrence Wargrave. I think that his confession seemed to be fitting because he was being known for having a lust to kill. But he saw it as he wasn't killing innocent people because even though that the other character were being seen as innocent of the eyes of the laws' he thought that they weren't. I think that he created the plot because it wouldn't be hard for him to kill 9 guilty people that were all to him considered to be guilty for there crimes. Especially if he "invited" them to a privately owned island in the middle of basically nowhere. But he also basically said he found death rather delightful and such.

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  14. Mr. U.N. Owen is the unknown host at the beginning of the plot but at the end the reader knows it is justice Wargrave . the murderers confession did seem appropriate because it tied everything together in the end and let the reader know what really happened. I believe Owen created this plot because as he said in his confession he always enjoyed the death of criminals and he was fascinated by an unsolvable mystery. he wanted his mystery to be solved by the note in a bottle story.

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  15. U.N. Owen is a mysterious person who invite 10 guests to a party on Solider Island. Later on in the story we find out out that U.N. Owen is actually Lawrence Wargrave, one of the guests at the party. I think the murderer's confession did seem fitting and appropriate to the story because it told us who the killer was and his plan on how to carry out the stories. Without the confession no one would've ever known who murdered everyone. In my opinion, U.N. Owen created this plot so that he could kill people who, in his mind, were murders that were innocent by law but needed to be served justice. Since the law couldn't punish the people, he decided to take matters into his own hands and kill them himself.

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  16. Mr. U.N. Owen is the name of the owner of Indian Island. He is later revealed to be Justice Wargrave. The confession seemed very appropriate because it explained that he killed all of those people because he had a love for killing and murders and how they happpened. But he did not want just innocent people to die. He wanted people that were not brought to "justice," hence his name, to be brought to justice. I think he created this elaborate plot to kill these people because he loved murder mysteries and he did not want to just keep reading or hearing about them but wanted to create his own story to go down in history. He did not want the mystery to be completely unsolvable so he left little clues on the island and wrote a confession to be found one day and explain the murder that was never solved.

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    1. I agree with Alex. I also think he created his plot because of his love for murder stories. He wanted to kill the guilty others for two reasons: his lust for killing and to bring justice.

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  17. Mr. U. N. Owen, once worded as “Mr. Unknown” (by Mr. Owen himself), was the person who set up the plot for this story by convincing nine other people to go to Indian Island. At the end of the story, one finds that the real identity of Mr. Owen is Mr. Lawrence Wargrave, who was a retired judge.

    I believe Mr. Wargrave created the plot because of two major things. The first of the two is that he has always had an urge to kill, which could’ve prompted him to become a judge. He states this in his confession, which says “From an early age I knew very strongly the lust to kill.” He also wrote that he did “experiments with…various garden pests.” The second is that he wanted to kill only the deserving and leave the innocent unharmed. His confession Because the murders done by the other nine visitors would not be able to be proven and would not progress in court, Wargrave decided to be the literal judge, jury, and executioner of his own court, one in which the only sentence seemed to be death.

    My opinion is that the confession fit perfectly with the story, explaining how and why the murders were done. Wargrave wanted someone to know that he murdered them because he wouldn't be satisfied if no one knew. Although he pointed out that there were a few clues that pointed to him as the murderer, the men in the epilogue were confused and had very little idea of the killer's identity. The confession insured that someone would know of his work, assuming the bottle containing his confession was discovered (which it was).

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  18. Throughout the book Mr. U. N. Owen is the unknown host of the whole get together. (That is why his name sounds like unknown). You eventually find out that he is Lawrence Wargrave. I enjoy his confession as the note in the bottle because it seems fitting. That eventually someone will find it, he admitted what he did in a mysterious way because that is how he is, mysterious. It all fit together because he killed the people because to him they were not innocent. The law thought they were innocent but in his eyes they were murderers so they deserved to be killed as well. This wouldn't be hard for him since he sent them all to a deserted island. So in my opinion the plan was very well thought out and fit the story perfectly.

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  19. Mr. U N Owen is actually Lawrence Wargrave. I thought his confession was intriguing because he didn't kill just anyone, he murdered those who had gotten away with murder themselves. In his mind they deserved it because they were not punished for their wrongdoings. Each person invited to the "party" had, in a sense, killed someone. I think Wargrave created this plot because he found it entertaining. I think he also saw it as somewhat of an experiment. The story states that he found twisted things like that interesting and was fascinated with death from a young age.

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  20. Lawrence Wargrave is U.N. Owen. The confession was appropriate because it explained why he killed all the people on the island, and why they were murdered in that particular order. Mr. Wargrave was a judge so he was able to create a list of people whom had gotten away with murder and went unpunished. He was also obsessed with committing a murder. He decided that if he was to commit a murder the innocent would not be involved. In the story it says "I wanted to kill. . . . Yes, I wanted to kill. . . . But--incongruous as it may seem to some-- I was restrained and hampered by my innate sense of justice. The innocent must not suffer."

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  21. Justice Wargrave is hidden by the name U.N. Owen. I think Justice Wargrave's confession is fitting because of his thirst to kill. It is appropriate in ways. One way in which it was appropriate by writing it on paper and putting it in a bottle; so that whoever finds it can unravel the mystery of Solider Island. I think Justice Wargrave created this plot because he wanted to kill. Justice most likely chose the selected nine to go to the island for the reason of committed murder. These nine individuals have committed a murder that the law couldn't touch. Justice Wargrave used the poem to select the way the individuals died.

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  22. Mr. U.N. Owen turned out to be Lawrence Wargrave. I’d say that his confession was logical. He wanted to be recognized for his sadistic, yet clever plan. He created the plot so the ones killed last suffered. He wanted them to be so consumed in apprehension that they couldn’t think clearly. He said in his confession that he had a, “definite delight in seeing or causing death” also, “Those whose guilt was the lightest should,” “Not suffer the prolonged mental strain and fear that the more cold-blooded offenders were to suffer".

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  23. Mr. U.N. Owen is Lawrence Wargrave.Yes, I do think that the murderer's"confession" is fitting and appropriate to me. Its seems fitting and appropriate to me because in the beginning of the confession, the murderer states that he has an incurably romantic imagination and that the practice of throwing a bottle into the sea with an important document inside it was one that never failed to thrill him as a child. In my opinion Mr. U.N. Owen ( A.K.A the murderer) created this plot because, as it says in the confession, he has a delight in seeing or causing death. In the confession he also says that he wanted to commit a murder but it shouldn't be of an innocent person or persons.

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  24. Mr. U.N. Owen is Lawrence Wargrave. His confession was understandable but only with some of the guest. because some of the guests were innocent and didn't murder anyone but for the people who actually did murder people I think its understandable that he choose them to be his guests. Also I think he should've gave the police evidence of the people so they would get locked up and not just kill them himself because he is doing the same crime they did. But he choose to kill them himself because he liked the thought of murder for a long time

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  25. Mr. U.N. Owen is Justice Lawrence Wargrave. His confession was understandable because he had a "sadistic delight in seeing or causing death" and wanted credit for it. At the same time I feel it wasnt understandable because in the book he is portrayed as being so impartial to the law that he would feel just as guilty for doing thid and deserving of the same fate. He created this plot so he could bring justice to the world by punishing people who were guilty but couldnt be punished by the law.

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  26. I agree with skyler. He wanted to be recognized for his creative plan. He chose the plot because he had the desire to commit a murder. He chose these people because they had committed a murder and he thought it was what was meant for them.

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  27. Mr. Owen, a.k.a Lawrence Wargrave, enjoyed playing God and judging each one of his guest according to their past convictions. Each one of the guests knew in some since they were guilty but went unpunished regardless if their mistakes were accidental or not. In time each person was given their due. I just don't think Mr. Owen should have been the one with the last word.

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  28. Mr. U. N. Owen is an unknown person at the beginning of the story, but later on the come to find out its Mr. Wargrave. He wanted to kill but not innocent people, he wanted to kill people who the law could not touch. Mr. Wargrave is committing a crime himself which I quit did not understand, he is killing all these people because the law could not touch them for what they have done. He chose all those guest because he thought that they all deserved to die and he enjoyed watching.

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  29. I agree with Katie, she did a very nice job giving details and supporting her answer. Yes some of the guest should have been there and should not have been killed, but in Lawrence Wargrave's perspective he thought that since the law could not touch them then he would take matter's into his own hands and deal with it. I think some people should not have been there and I understand why Wargrave brought them there.

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  30. I agree with Taylor. The guest believed Lawrence Wargrave was the killer. Until he became dead himself. Little did everyone know he faked his death in order for the rest not to suspect him.

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